<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=us-ascii"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div><div>On Jan 9, 2014, at 2:01 PM, <a href="mailto:T613K@aol.com">T613K@aol.com</a> wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div id="role_body" style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; " bottommargin="7" leftmargin="7" rightmargin="7" topmargin="7"><font id="role_document" size="2" face="Arial"><div><div>However, there is a gray area between magic and avodas Hashem. For
example, a segulah for having children is to ask your own parents for mechilla
for anything you may have done against their kovod. This isn't so much a
magical formula as a way of correcting a real spiritual blockage that may
be the reason you haven't had children until now.</div></div></font></div></blockquote><br></div><div>I have never heard of this, but based on your description, I would ask whether it is, strictly speaking, a segulah. It is, as you say, a way of addressing a real, relevant, and rational potential problem. And therefore if it doesn't work, the logical response is not "my magic box was broken," but rather, "I guess _that_ wasn't the problem," or even, "perhaps whatever I did to deserve this was grave enough that that wasn't enough to fix it."</div><br><div apple-content-edited="true">
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