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<font size=3>At 11:24 PM 12/9/2013, R Meir Shinnar wrote:<br>
>1) the fact that there is a hezkat kashrut does <br>
>NOT mean that there aren't problems - the <br>
>existence of scandals does NOT invalidate the <br>
>hazaka - unless one is arguing a fundamental <br>
>change in the metziut. Hazaka does not mean <br>
>infallibility - and scandals with kashrut Are <br>
>not a modern invention - which did not lead to <br>
>wide scale abrogation of the Halacha of hezkat kashrut..<br>
>2) wrt being more complicated, etc - see <br>
>Rav Moshe (igrot Moshe yd 4:6h)e . About the <br>
>use of hashgachot that one is not familiar with <br>
>- and is (under a broad range) mattir them - and <br>
>raises issue that maybe the caterer could fool <br>
>the mashgiach, or maybe the mashgiach doesn't <br>
>know how to do hashgacha - your primary issues - <br>
>and answers that midina there is NO safek - as <br>
>the Torah believed them from din of Ed echad ne'eman be'issurim.<br>
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>Unless u have specific knowledge that the people <br>
>lack knowledge or lack reliability - how is not <br>
>trusting them NOT hoshed biksherim??? My point <br>
>is that being machmir in kashrut leads to kulot <br>
>in other areas - and a disintegration of the <br>
>communal model that Halacha is supposed to foster<br>
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>Meir Shinnar<br><br>
I have posted this before.<br><br>
From
<a href="http://torahmusings.com/2012/05/audio-roundup-35/" eudora="autourl">
http://torahmusings.com/2012/05/audio-roundup-35/<br><br>
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<<a href="http://download.bcbm.org/Media/RavWeiss/Sefer%20Vayikra/Tazriah/Rav%20Weiss%20Tazria%205772%20English%20Kashrus%20Verification.mp3" eudora="autourl">
http://download.bcbm.org/Media/RavWeiss/Sefer%20Vayikra/Tazriah/Rav%20Weiss%20Tazria%205772%20English%20Kashrus%20Verification.mp3</a>
>HARav <br>
Asher Weiss -Metzora 5772: ‘Kashrus <br>
Verification’ This link does not work for me, but the recap
is below. YL<br><br>
Why can’t we rely on eid echad neeman b’issurin <br>
(one witness is sufficient in cases of ritual <br>
prohibition) in kashrut supervision? (ironic to <br>
me this was the starting point of R’N Alpert’s <br>
Z”L response to me when I asked him about a kashrut
supervision).<br><br>
R’AW’s opinion is that eid echad is not a rule to <br>
neemanut (trustworthiness) but in hanhaga (how to <br>
act) that in case of doubt you can rely on a <br>
single witness (proofs include there is no testimony and no beit
din).<br><br>
However, over the years the Rabbis make <br>
fences/judgments (e.g. requiring a ritual <br>
slaughterer to show his knife). So today (see <br>
chachmat adam 200 years ago) we don’t rely on <br>
anyone who has a monetary interest (me but then <br>
what about the agency being paid?).<br>
Then discussion of one of my favorite topics <br>
Chazal and statistics. R’AW says out loud what <br>
I’ve whispered to my chaburah Chazal did not <br>
engage in statistics! First he discusses why a <br>
miyut shachiach (normally found minority?) is of <br>
concern (why not just say rov [majority] is <br>
sufficient?) Perhaps because of concern for <br>
margin of error. Then on to miyut hamatzui <br>
(material minority) and the famous 10% rule of <br>
the Mishkinot Yaakov he feels tshuva is <br>
misread; while it does mention 10% with some <br>
“interesting” proofs, the conclusion is that it’s <br>
just about what’s “common” and the real problem <br>
is defining “common” in age where a shocheit may <br>
shecht 100X as many animals in the old days. <br>
That’s why we steer clear of doubt!!!!! Oy, if only they would ask an
actuary?<br><br>
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At 11:24 PM 12/9/2013, R Meir Shinnar wrote:<br>
<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">1) the fact that there is a
hezkat kashrut does NOT mean that there aren't problems - the existence
of scandals does NOT invalidate the hazaka - unless one is arguing a
fundamental change in the metziut. Hazaka does not mean infallibility -
and scandals with kashrut Are not a modern invention - which did not lead
to wide scale abrogation of the Halacha of hezkat kashrut.. <br>
2) wrt being more complicated, etc - see Rav Moshe (igrot Moshe yd
4:6h)e . About the use of hashgachot that one is not familiar with - and
is (under a broad range) mattir them - and raises
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