<div dir="ltr"><div><<<span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif">It all depends where you are located. </span><span class="" tabindex="0" style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"><span class="">6:20</span></span><span style="font-size:13px;font-family:arial,sans-serif"> is before sunrise in some places.>></span></div>
<div><br></div>I saw in the Mate Ephraim (581:11) that the old minhag was to say selichos at the end of the night. However, recently (in his days) they wait until "alot haschachar". (not sunrise!!).<div>However on Saturday night/sunday morning they begin earlier because the language of the pizmon talks about night<br>
<div>However, one who says tikun chazot can say the selichot afterwards.</div><div>Hence, it would seem that saying selichot at midnight is better than sunrise</div><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br>
<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div>
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