<div dir="ltr">this interesting discussion lends itself to consideration of the leader/follower in the last generation about whom messianic claims were/are made . except i am not sure where along in the potential messiah's claim, sufficient evidence has accrued to make it a viable *possible* consideration; or a point * in his lifetime* where it becomes no longer possible to accord with the RMBM's codified criteria. [meaning that once deceased, having not fulfilled all the criteria required, he has proven his non-messianic status].... <div>
<br></div><div> if we use rZS 's example of bar kochba [where there is no dissent to the thesis that he is NOT the messiah] , was there a chiyuv to follow him, and believe in him; and at what point did that become assur....</div>
<div><br></div><div>i assume that it is somehow required for the Einei Haeidah to be maskim to his status, and by eidah i mean of most camps in Klal Yisrael ...</div></div>