<div dir="ltr">I was recently learning hilchot kibud av ve-em in our weekly halacha shiur.<div>It seems theo me that at least it my circles it is virtually impossible for any modern teenager to keep these halachot</div><div>
some examples</div><div><br></div><div>ROY (Yabea Ober)</div><div>One cannot ask ones mother or father to cook food for them or to bring in food or drink even after asking mechila</div><div><br></div><div>R Kareliz (Chut Shani)</div>
<div>1, If the parents are going to a store the child cannot ask them to buy things for them unless there is no way for the child to buy it themselves. The child can hint as long as the father is not a talmod chacham</div>
<div>2. One cannot ask ones parents to turn off the lights in the room or to bring a book (again it is allowed by hinting as long as the father is not a TC)</div><div>3. One cannot ask ones parents to pass the salt - only hint by asking "Is there salt at the end of the table?"</div>
<div><br></div><div>A separate question: There is a halcha of kavod for the edlest sibling (machloket if for all the older siblings). This seems to be very dangerous for 2 teenagers relatively close in age.</div><div>I could just see my eldest telling her brother a year younger that he has to give her kavod.</div>
<div>They fought enough as it is.</div><div>There is a discussion if kavod of the older brother is because of the parents or independent.</div><div>I was once told that if it because of the parents they can override that kavod for fighting siblings. If it is independent they are stuck</div>
<div><br></div><div>Any ideas for a modern family with teenagers?</div><div>We have discussed many times on this list teenagers going OTD. These halachot might be an extra wedge for kids already having problems. It seems the situation is even worse when the father is a TC. In many cases mechila doesnt seem to help.<br clear="all">
<div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div>
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