<html><div>I spoke to Rabbi Yosef Wikler, publisher of Kashrus Magazine. He re-stated what we had discussed, that a self-cleaning oven is considered by all modern poskim to be libun gamur whereas the older ovens, as hot as they could get, around 500F, were not. They are all therefore somech on them for the oven itself and anything placed into it, such as the oven racks, the stove grates, etc. And, of course, anything else that needs libun.</div><div> </div><div>To repeat what I wrote previously, you won't find any "sources" for this since the whole technology is not old enough to have made it into any halacha sefarim such as Chochmas Adam that are usually accepted , and anyone who publishes this in a modern kashrus book is simply restating what I wrote above. Ve'su lo midi.</div><div> </div><div>Gershon<br>gershon.dubin@juno.com</div></html>
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