<div dir="ltr"><<<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">"4. Most Poskim hold that a self cleaning oven may be kashered by running it through the self cleaning cycle. According to the view of many Poskim (see 2) who hold that libun gamur is required for gas and electric ovens, the door must be covered with aluminum foil and the like for Pesach. According to the view of the other Poskim (see 3) who hold that libun kal is sufficient, the amount of heat which reaches the door during the self cleaning process is sufficient."</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">It is clear to me from the above that a pot would require libun gamur, and being inside a self-cleaning oven would NOT be sufficient.>></span><div>
<font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I fail to see the comparison. The problem with the door is that it faces the outside which is cool. Therefore the heat that reaches the door might not be enough for libun gamur (has anyone actually measured this?)</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">However, the pot would be sitting in the middle of the oven. If one holds that an oven needs libun gamur and self-cleaning still works (except for the door) why would a pot in the middle be any different?</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Is there anyone who says that the heat inside a self-cleaning oven does not reach libun gamur?</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I find it hard to imagine that chazal had means to reacher higher temperatures<br clear="all">
</font><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div>
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