<div dir="ltr"><<<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">I suspect R' Eli and Chana find R' Weiss approach strange or difficult</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">because they are looking for a consistent algorithm that can be applied</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">a priori to determine the halachic status of an act or device (as I</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">think many of us would like to view halacha and in fact how it operates</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">in many/most cases) I think R' Weiss understands that there is a "libi</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">omer li"/obviously element to halacha that is especially important in</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">cases of first impression. Much like R' YBS stated in C-C-C [Community,</span><br style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">
<span style="font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Covenant and Commitment (?) -micha]:>></span><div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">First there is a difference between halacha and haskafa. Even within halacha obvious</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">personal feelings (libi omer) plays a part. One example we have quoted is the psak of RSZA</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">that the gezerah of kinyiot applies to modern day cakes even made from potato starch.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">RSZA feels that had the rishonim lived today they would have included it within the gezerah.</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Similarly other poskim are not happy about "kosher bacon" and other such foods.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">Nevertheless, I agree with Joel that I am bothered by including in makeh bepatisch deOraisa</font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">items which the modern day posek feels are important and creative activities.This is obviously</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">very subjective. I have no problem if Chazal made that choice but for a modern posek to make a </font></div><div><font face="arial, sans-serif">subjective choice which then becomes prohibited deOraisa I personally find disturbing.</font></div>
<div><font face="arial, sans-serif">I fully admit this a personal feeling.<br clear="all"></font><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div>
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