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<font size=3>At 12:53 PM 5/29/2013, R. Micha wrote:<br><br>
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<blockquote type=cite class=cite cite="">BTW, Graetz was once a student
and ben bayis of RSRH's. (I think I<br>
picked that up from the intro to the volume of Collected Writings
that<br>
is largely a point-by-point refutation of Graetz's history.)
Graetz's<br>
departure from Yahadus was probably particularly painful for the
teacher.<br>
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Graetz, after reading the 19 Letters wrote to RSRH asking him if he
could become his teacher. From
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Graetz" eudora="autourl">
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Graetz</a><br><br>
Graetz received his first instruction at
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zerkov">Zerkov</a>, where his
parents had relocated, and in 1831 was sent to
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wolsztyn">Wolstein</a>, where he
attended the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yeshivah">yeshivah</a>
up to 1836, acquiring
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secular">secular</a> knowledge by
private study. The "Neunzehn Briefe von Ben Uziel" (see
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Raphael_Hirsch">Samson
Raphael Hirsch</a>) made a powerful impression on him; and he resolved to
prepare himself for academic studies in order to champion the cause of
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Orthodox_Judaism">Orthodox
Judaism</a>. His first intention was to go to
<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prague">Prague</a>, to which place
he was attracted by the fame of its old yeshivah and the facilities
afforded by the university. Being rejected by the immigration officers,
he returned to Zerkov and wrote to S. R. Hirsch, then rabbi of Oldenburg,
intimating his desire. Hirsch offered him a home in his house. Graetz
arrived there on May 8, 1837, and spent three years with his patron as a
pupil, companion, and amanuensis [This word is new to me, so I looked it
up. This is the first that I hear that Graetz played this role for Rav
Hirsch].<br><br>
Graetz kept a diary during the time he was living at Rabbiner Hirsch's
home, and from it we know Rav Hirsch's demanding schedule and the
subjects (both Torah and secular) that he and Graetz studied
together. <br><br>
IIRC after Graetz married, he and his wife came to visit Rav
Hirsch. Mrs. Graetz's hair was not covered, and Rabbiner
Hirsch made it clear in no uncertain terms that a married woman should
have her hair covered. This marked the final break for Graetz with
RSRH. <br><br>
This is all in Klugman's bio of Rav Hirsch. <br><br>
Graetz treats RSRH most harshly in his History of the Jews. <br><br>
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