<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Micha Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org" target="_blank">micha@aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class="im">On Mon, May 20, 2013 at 04:31:30PM -0400, Micha Berger wrote:<br>
:>> A very clear outright statement that yovel drifts -- sometimes it's on<br>
:>> year 1 of the cycle, other times in the middle of the cycle, etc...<br>
:<br>
:> However, according to the one who says Yovel is included in the<br>
:> shmittah cycle, sometimes [the eved ivri goes free] in the middle of<br>
:> a shmittah cycle.<br></div></blockquote><div> </div><div>Then, to respond to R'nLL citing Qorban ha'Edah, RMB wrote:<br> <br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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If you insist that the QhE is speaking specifically of yovel being in the<br>
year 1, even so he means "sometimes yovel is in the middle", as years 2<br>
to 6 are only 5 years of servitude, not 6. But I don't see indication<br>
the QhE is saying it's specifically year 1, rather than the part you<br>
quote saying "e.g. year 1". He spends all that time on this case,<br>
but also (beginning of the 2nd long line of that d"h in the Vilna ed<br>
at <<a href="http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14142&st=&pgnum=391" target="_blank">http://www.hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=14142&st=&pgnum=391</a>>)<br>
"debeshe'ar shenei shavua' airi qera" -- any of the other 6, not just<br>
the first.<br></blockquote></div><br clear="all"></div><div class="gmail_extra">Having looked at the sources cited, I must say that I find the Yerushalmi is more convincingly read like RMB suggests, however, regarding what the Qorban ha'Edah says, I believe that R'n LL is right, namely, that he reads the Yerushalmi as agreeing with our Bavli influenced preconceived notions about how Yovel is always right after Shemitta. In fact, QhE reads the ba be'emtza hashevua' as relating not to Yovel (which would seem the object of the lines in the gemara), but rather as modifying the 'eved, who will, if he cannot be sold during yovel, end up working only five years, rather than six.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">Mixed bag of opinions ...<br><br>Kol tuv,<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">-- <br><div dir="ltr">Arie Folger,<br>Recent blog posts on <a href="http://ariefolger.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://ariefolger.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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