<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">In my humble opinion, you're making an error.<div>Why should it matter whether you and I can tell the difference between Ploni's suits?</div><div>What matters is that Ploni be aware that this is his Shabbos suit.</div><div>According to your logic, it shouldn't matter what underclothes Ploni wears on Shabbos because we can't tell. According to my logic, it does matter, because Ploni can presumably tell. </div><div>("What, you have special underclothes for Shabbos?"</div><div>"What, you don't?")</div><div>(;-)></div><div>Alexander Seinfeld</div><div><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; "><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace"> I understand that these people</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">generally designate specific suits, shirts, and ties for shabbos</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">but the fact is that to the outside observer they look no different on</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">Shabbos then they do during the week. Just by looking at them I would have</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">no idea if it is Shabbos or a weekday. They don't look anymore dressed up</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">on Shabbos then they do during the week which is a lack of Kavod Shabbos.</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">On the other hand, for the Israeli who dresses casually during the week</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">with colored shirts (maybe not even button down) the white shirt on</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">Shabbos is very clearly visible and a distinct indication of kavod shabbos.</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">His dress on shabbos is clearly different and nicer then his dress during</font><br><font class="Apple-style-span" face="monospace">the week. You can immediately tell that he is dressed up for shabbos.</font></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>