<div dir="ltr"><div><div>On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:26:40AM +1100, Meir Rabi wrote:</div><div>In response to the suggestion that there is no Bittul when a Goy adds non Kosher DELIBERATELY or according to a RECIPE, and accordingly chocolate with lecithin and drinks sweetened with tiny amounts Kitniyos are Assur during Pesach for Ashkenazim, I should like to present the following information.</div>
<div>The MaHARaM of Lublin, Teshuvah 104, Paskens that it is Muttar. Reb Moshe YD 2:41 Paskens accordingly.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>to clarify - RMF holds there is bittul when a goy adds a non-kosher ingredient deliberately or according to a recipe to a mixture that is under the supervision of a kashrus agency</div>
<div>Reb Moshe says this quite clearly, he says just because a Jew is monitoring the process to ensure that non-K ingredients are not added - what's the big deal? The Goy is the mover and instigator of the Hechsher.</div>
<div><br></div><div>However, if Glicks or PASKESZ sub-contract to package with their label that is now Bittul Issur LeChatChiLa </div><div><br></div><div>A manufacturer who wants a KLP symbol on his packages of chocolate, and he shows you the list of ingredients, which includes lecithin, you tell him, "This recipe is fine," this is after-the-fact. It is BeDiOVad. The G is the instigator, he is driving it for his profit, the Rav is employed. </div>
<div><br></div><div>Because if your neighbour Chris, brings over a Kugel cooked in his kitchen as a gift for his Jewish neighbour, the J may not eat it. Why? Bishul Akkum.</div><div><br></div><div>So he says to Chris I like you youre a nice guy. Tell you what, next time you get the urge, call me over, we can do this together. So he gets called goes over and participatesin the cooking ensures no non-K ingredients are used and may in the FIRST instance eat the Kugel, because the G is not instructed not to use EBYomo pots before they've been Kashered.</div>
<div>That is Reb Mosher's case</div><div><br></div><div>Best,</div><div><br></div><div>Meir G. Rabi</div><div><br></div></div><div>Best,<br><br>Meir G. Rabi</div>
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