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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 3/10/2013 2:59 PM, Rich, Joel wrote:<br>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I
often hear people say HKB"H doesn't give anyone a
test they can't “ pass”. Does anyone know of any
original sources either way on the issue?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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Joel Rich</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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This is from the chapter on Trials and Tests in my sefer Daas Torah<br>
<h2><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc279961687"><span
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style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Franklin Gothic
Medium Cond"">Suffering
is not </span></span></span></span></span></span><!--[if supportFields]><span
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style='mso-bookmark:_Toc293267854'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532'><span
style='mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897'></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style='mso-element:field-begin'></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc90832867'><span
style='mso-bookmark:_Toc279961687'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc293267854'><span
style='mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938'><span
style='mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897'><span style='mso-bidi-font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium Cond"'><span
style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>XE "Suffering:Amount-able to handle"
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><![endif]--><span
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style='mso-bookmark:_Toc293267854'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532'><span
style='mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938'><span style='mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897'></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style='mso-element:field-end'></span><![endif]--><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc90832867"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc279961687"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc293267854"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832867"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc279961687"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc293267854"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Franklin Gothic
Medium Cond"">greater than ability
to handle it</span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Franklin Gothic Medium
Cond""><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></span></h2>
<p class="quote"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow"">Bereishis
Rabbah</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"></span></span></span><span
style="mso-endnote-id:edn1"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-weight:normal"><span
style="mso-special-character:footnote"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:FrankRuehl;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;
font-weight:normal">[i]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">(32:3):</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow""> A potter
does not test defective vessels
because he cannot even give them even a single blow
without breaking them.
Similarly G‑d does not test the wicked but only the
righteous. When a flax
worker knows that his flax is good then he knows that the
more he beats it the
more it improves. In contrast when he knows that it is
poor quality he doesn’t
bother beating it because he knows it will simply split.
Similarly G‑d does not
test the wicked but only the righteous. When a person has
two cows one of which
is strong and the other weak, obviously he puts the yoke
on the strong one?
Similarly G‑d does not test the wicked but only the
righteous.<o:p></o:p></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="quote"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow"">Kesubos</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"></span></span></span><span
style="mso-endnote-id:
edn2"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New
Roman";
font-weight:normal"><span
style="mso-special-character:footnote"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New
Roman";
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;
font-weight:normal">[ii]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">(67a):</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow""> According
to the camel is the load.<o:p></o:p></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="quote"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow""><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow"">Rashi</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"></span></span></span><span
style="mso-endnote-id:
edn4"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-weight:normal"><span
style="mso-special-character:footnote"><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times
New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:FrankRuehl;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;
font-weight:normal">[iv]</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">(Kesubos
67a):</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">
</span></span></span></span></span></b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow""><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">A
camel is given a burden according to
how strong it is.<br>
</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></p>
<p class="quote"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:
_Toc91773938"><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow""><span style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"></span></span></span><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow"">R’
Saadiya Gaon</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"></span></span></span><span
style="mso-endnote-id:edn3"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-weight:normal"><span
style="mso-special-character:footnote"><!--[if !supportFootnotes]--><span
class="MsoEndnoteReference"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial
Narrow","sans-serif";
mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New
Roman";mso-bidi-font-family:FrankRuehl;
mso-ansi-language:EN-US;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-bidi-language:HE;
font-weight:normal">[iii]</span></span><!--[endif]--></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><b><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow"">(Emuna
V’De’os 5:3):</span></b></span></span></span><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc90832532"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc91773938"><span
style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow""> The
righteous suffer for two reasons. The
first reason is that it is for the few sins they have
committed… The second
reason is that it a trial. G‑d tests them when He knows
that they will be able
to endure the suffering. Afterwards he will reward them to
compensate them for
the undeserved suffering. G‑d does not test a person who
cannot endure it -
because then it serves no purpose. The purpose in
afflicting the righteous is
in order that mankind should know that G‑d did not choose
them for nothing. Job
and his suffering is an example of this second type of
suffering. If the
suffering is the result of sin then typically G‑d will
acknowledge that this is
the reason - if He is asked. On the other hand if the
suffering is because it
is a trial - G‑d typically does not acknowledge it. This
we see from the response
to Moshe’s complaint “Why are you making it worse for this
people.” Similarly
Job was not answered when he asked why he was suffering.
This lack of
explanation is necessary so that the suffering of the
righteous should not be
simply dismissed by the average man as merely a means for
the tzadik of getting
additional reward. And I say that even the completely
innocent person is
sometimes afflicted in order that he gets reward for it.
This is obviously the
case for the infant who suffers. I have no doubt that they
will be compensated
for their suffering. A wise person views suffering as the
chastisement of a
father by means of a beating or detention to keep his son
from harm. It is
comparable to the disgusting bitter medicine that a person
takes to be cured. A
person might ask why is this suffering necessary because
G‑d can give the good
without the suffering? We answer him that good deservedly
given as reward is
better than receiving it out of kindness.<o:p></o:p></span></span></span></span></p>
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style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial
Narrow""><br>
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style="mso-bookmark:_Toc94332897"><span
style="mso-bidi-font-size:10.0pt;
mso-bidi-font-family:"Arial Narrow""><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></span></p>
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