<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>On Jan 10, 2013, at 4:40 PM, Micha Berger wrote:</div><div><div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; font-family: Arial; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; font-size: medium; ">So, as I said, it seems to me that the Gra too did not believe in Hashem's<br>literal tzimtzum, and therefore existence is of Him -- albeit not His<br>Will or perhaps not His Or Ein Sof. But in any case, panentheism.</span></blockquote></div><br></div><div>What all this shows is that none of us, nor our predecessors, nor our descendants<div>have the definitive answer. Also, shivim panim baTorah and eilu v'eilu... </div></div></body></html>