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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>From: "Akiva Miller" <kennethgmiller@juno.com><BR><BR>In every
siddur I've looked at (Edot Hamizrach excepted), the printed instructions
clearly state that Uv'nucho Yomar is to be said while placing the Sefer Torah
back into the Aron. But in recent years, I have become more and more aware of
people who simply say it immediately after the preceding paragraph, regardless
of the location of the Sefer Torah....</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR>Akiva Miller</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Just as a point of interest, about half of us do not have any way of even
knowing WHERE the Sefer Torah is, and we just say Uv'nucho Yomar when we guess
it should be said or when we hear other people saying it. In MO shuls they
all sing together, so there's a clue. In my yeshivish Litvish
shtibel, it's every man for himself, murmur murmur.</DIV>
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<DIV>Oh and every woman. Yes, when I speak of those who have no way
of knowing where the ST is, I refer to those of us who daven behind the
mechitza, where you fellows are free to forget about us altogether.</DIV>
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<DIV>But to give a more serious answer to the question of when to say Uv'nucho
Yomar, I don't think "while placing the Sefer Torah" has to be taken so
literally. "Round about the time the Sefer Torah is placed in the aron" is
obviously close enough.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</STRONG></FONT><FONT lang=0 size=2 face=Arial
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