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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>From: Eli Turkel <eliturkel@xgmail.com><BR><BR>In terms of the
historical data that I gave Rbn Katz is correct that<BR>what I gave was for AI
and not IVF....<BR><BR>....As far as halacha goes all the issues I mentioned in
my previous post<BR>hold for IVF also.</FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR>.... Others object to IVF on moral grounds<BR>(eg R.
Zilberstein) that it causes chaos and destroys the kedusha of<BR>the Jewish
people.<BR><BR>....When the carrier of the fetus is not the genetic mother there
is a<BR>big argument about who is the halachic mother and will leave it
for<BR>another post<BR><BR>-- <BR>Eli Turkel<BR><BR></DIV></FONT></FONT>
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<DIV>If the husband and wife are using their own sperm and eggs I don't
understand how that "causes chaos and destroys the kedusha of the Jewish
people." He may be making an assumption that donor sperm or donor eggs or
a surrogate mother are the norm in IVF but in fact they are very much the
exception. IVF actually enables men with poor quality sperm to father
their own children and almost always obviates the need for donor sperm.
IVF also allows women with blocked Fallopian tubes to simply make a little
detour -- since the road from ovaries to womb is blocked, they take a route that
goes from ovaries to Petri dish to womb. When IVF allows a couple to
have children using their own sperm and eggs and the wife's own womb, I do not
see where there is any "chaos." </DIV>
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<DIV><B><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby Katz<BR>=============</FONT><FONT lang=0
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