<div dir="ltr"><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Dec 9, 2012 at 12:49 PM, R' MYG wrote<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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I read an article recently about photography (my hobby, hence my interest) in which a photographer was described as setting up a dozen lights for his studio shots. The client would be very impressed and would leave feeling that he was getting his money's worth - with that many lights the photographer must really know what he's doing. The trick was, that the photographer would set one or two lights to illuminate the subject while the picture was taken, and the other ten lights to flash a fraction of a moment later. The eye can't tell the difference, so it looked like he used all the lights for the same shot, but in actuality most of the lights were there just for show.<br>
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So, here's the question - is this G'neivas Daas? On the one hand, he's making himself look really good through this artifice - on the other, his pictures are the ultimate judge of his skill. If they came out in such a way that his client is happy, is it a problem that he made himself look good like this?<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>This could be geneivat da'at, but I am not sure. The reason that the Gemara in 'Hullin says selling bessar neveila to a NJ claiming it is she'huta is geneivat da'at is that there is a real difference between them, even though it is an intanglible. The product has a hidden defect. However, in your case, there is no such hidden defect, the picture is a good one.<br>
<br>However, one should still consider whether the practice is permissible, or prohibited because of umidvar sheqer tira'haq. This is not so simple, since Rishonim diagree as to the precise contours of that assei prohibition. According to R' Prof Aaron Levine z"l, the way to definitely assess its permissibility (feasible for large companies, but not harder for a photography studio) is to have a focus group see the installation at work and judge the package in comparison with that of another competitor. If the practice is seen by enough people as mere advertisement, then it is definitely not sheqer. <br>
<br>Even if most people fall for it, it may be permissible, since it is a lie by omission (the stuff stands there already, and he is not saying anything). That seems to be the halacha as can be deduced from the story of Rava, Rav Safra and Mar Zutra (TB 'Hullin 94a).<br>
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A similar situation: A computer tech I know used to do tune-ups for<br>
computers. He was an honest fellow, and did what he said he would. But he would write on the invoice - as one of the line items - "checked for 35,000 viruses." (This was back in the day when there were only 35,000 viruses.) That meant that he ran a virus check on the computer. So, yes, he did check for 35,000 viruses, but the way he wrote it made it sound a lot more impressive than it was.<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>By the above standard, this is the way people speak and would more definitely be OK than the studio case. <br><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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Last for this post: A frum cosmetologist used to advertise her services in the town I used to live in. She had a typical Jewish last name, starting with "le". So, after being in business for years, she started advertising her name like this: LeVovitz. (It wasn't Levovitz - I don't want to post her name in public. It was a different name and it was a lot less cringe-inducing than LeVovitz. :-) ) She was obviously going for the French look, making herself look exotic and so on. What do you think? G'neivas Daas?<br>
</div></blockquote><div><br>Definitely not. Business names are not necessarily revealing anything about their owners, just about their output.<br>
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<br>Bottom line: The first case may be prohibited, either as geneivat da'at or sheqer (and whether those two are separate is itself subject to a ma'hloqet), while the two following ones are IMHO permissible.<br></div>
</div><span class=""><font color="#888888"><br><br clear="all">Kol tuv,<br>-- <br><div dir="ltr">Arie Folger,<br>Recent blog posts on <a href="http://ariefolger.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">http://ariefolger.wordpress.com/</a><br>
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