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<DIV>RMB wrote:</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">However, Hashem is not a person who can be
convinced. Hashem is perfect and<BR>omniscient and therefore by definition you
can't change Hashem's mind and<BR>you are not going to raise an argument that he
hasn't already considered<BR>and rejected. Given the above, what was Avraham
Avinu trying to accomplish<BR>with his back and forth with Hashem?<BR><BR>In
truth, this is really the age old question about tefila, if Hashem
is<BR>omniscient and perfect what is the point of davening? Hashem knows
exactly<BR>what we need/want and we can't, so to speak convince him to change
his<BR>mind.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">CM remarks:</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">I was thinking along similar lines. In fact
what happens here is that in reality AA never actually got to a real case where
he might make a difference. There were no 50, 40, 30, 20 or 10 tzadikkim and he
stopped at 10 because of the example of the mabul that was not saved. So
the only actual case where AA could have made a difference (less than 10) wasn’t
even asked for. </FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">A friend of mine pointed out something that
never occurred to me. Lot accomplished more in terms of saving Sedom than AA. By
fleeing to Tzoar, one of the 5 cities to be destroyed, he saved it. So he
actually saved 20% from that destruction whereas AA did not save anyone. (You
can of course argue that saving Lot and Tzoar was all only bezchus
AA).</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Kol Tuv</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Times New Roman">Chaim Manaster</FONT></DIV>
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