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      Fri, 2 Nov 2012 14:31:53 -0400
      From: Micha Berger <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>Rabbeynu Yehuda HaLevy in the the Kuzari (2:80)... makes the cholom neither an "oy" sound nor a long  
<span class="moz-txt-citetags">> </span>"a" sound (both which involve the sides of the tongue).
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      <pre wrap="">There is an elaborate argument at
<a moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://opensiddur.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Siddur-Bnei-Ashkenaz-v.1.12.2.pdf#page=51">http://opensiddur.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/Siddur-Bnei-Ashkenaz-v.1.12.2.pdf#page=51</a>

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    Fascinating. I was ready to hear that Rav Yehuda HaLevy was, after
    all, a Sefardi, so it may be irrlevant to Ashkenazi pronunciation.
    But this pdf says that the long ''O'' pronunciaton of a cholom was
    endorsed by the Gra, by the Kelm Talmud Torah according to R’ Shlomo
    Wolbe, by Rav Eliyahu Dessler, Rav Yaakov Kaminetzky, Rav Moshe
    Feisnstein and Rav Mordechai Gifter. To all of which I can only
    remark, ''Oh!''
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