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face=Arial>From: Micha Berger <micha@aishdas.org><BR><BR><BR>>> No,
you just say it's done for medical reasons. Whereas the MN concludes<BR>it was
for deOraisa ones unrelated to medicine. This dismisses your<BR>argument that
bepeh is simply an efficient way to do metzitzah.<BR><BR>Also, recall that RSRH
is among those who hold the mitzvah is specifically<BR>metzitzah bepeh, and is
only meiqil in considering using a tzinor as<BR>still being bepeh. Leshitaso,
not just that of those who require direct<BR>contact, MbP is because G-d said
so. Nothing about efficient ways to<BR>remove bacteria.<BR><BR>Eilu va'eilu. We
meiqilim shouldn't be in the business of trying to<BR>win a machloqes by gov't
intervention. ...<BR>We are talking about 11 cases in a 12 year span that the
Agudah estimates<BR>included 3,500 MbP/year. IOW, 2.6 cases per 10,000.
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face=Arial>-- <BR>Micha
Berger
<BR>micha@aishdas.org
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<DIV>A recent article in Mishpacha about this pointed out that the number of
fatal infections acquired by newborns in hospitals each year is
greater than the number of infections following milah by many orders of
magnitude. Yet there is no government outcry about the rate of infection
in hospitals, no campaign to persuade women to give birth at home and avoid
hospitals at all costs.</DIV>
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<DIV>One statement made here by RMB is particularly important: we must not
settle our internal eilu ve'eilu differences at the point of a government
gun. Our long history shows that inviting the government into our tents
never bodes well for us.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</STRONG></FONT><BR><BR><BR><BR><FONT
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