<br><br>On Tuesday, August 7, 2012, Micha Berger wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The gemara Eirkhin 10b-11a describes the magreifah, one of the kelei<br>
shir in the BHMQ, which in Leshon Tanakh is either the minnim or the<br>
ugav. Shemuel describes it as a box about 1 ammah square with a board<br>
extending from one side (for keys? to work the bellows?), and 10 tubes<br>
coming out the top. Each pipe had 10 holes allowing for 100 qolos.<br>
A beraisa (meaning: before Shmuel, a first generation amora) says<br>
1,000 qolos. OTOH, in the Y-mi's version (Sukkah 25a), Rav argues with<br>
Shemuel and one of them says (judging from the Bavli, I would conclude<br>
Rav) there were 100 pipes and that both say it could make 1,000 qolos.<br>
While this is often taken as guzma, I would note that 10 pipes, each<br>
of which having only one hole that can be covered to turn it off,<br>
would allow for 1,024 combinations. So 1,000 qolos (Y-mi: minei zemer)<br>
meaning 1,000 chords would be a gross *under*statement for 10 pipes with<br>
10 holes each, not an exageration. Maybe around 1,000 aren't just noise.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>If each tube is ten notes higher than the next, then 100 tubes with ten holes equals 1000 notes. Why assume it means chords? </div>
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There is another keli called a magrefah; it is a shovel (Rashi ad loc)<br>
used to tend the coals. So I picture the pipes together, like a pipe<br>
organ's, thus giving the instrument its name. Similarly, those who<br>
translate the coal-tending magrefah is a rake would probably assume the<br>
pipes fanned out, bagpipe-like.<br>
<br></blockquote><div>Why would you assume the rake heads are fanning out? Some rakes have all of the rake heads laid out more poke a comb than a fan. This would very much approximate the look of an organ.</div><div> </div>
<div>Kol tuv,</div><div>Liron<span></span></div><br><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><div>Liron Kopinsky</div><div><a href="mailto:liron.kopinsky@gmail.com" target="_blank">liron.kopinsky@gmail.com</a></div></div><br>