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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2
face=Arial>From: "Akiva Miller" <kennethgmiller@juno.com><BR><BR>R' Zev
Sero wrote:<BR><BR>> But we're not discussing "borei me'orei ha'esh";
we're<BR>> discussing "lehadlik ner shel shabbos kodesh" or "shel<BR>> yom
tov", etc. And there the mitzvah is the provision<BR>> of practical
light by which one may walk around<BR>> without hurting oneself, and see what
one is eating.<BR>> A LED provides this just as well as a candle.<BR><BR>(I
would add that we're also not talking about Chanukah, where Pirsumei Nisa
demands fuel that burns on a wick.)<BR><BR>I've long felt exactly as RZS
explained. Which is why I'm indebted to this posters in this thread for pointing
out the problems posed by the wording of the bracha.<BR><BR>I'm now of the
opinion (not that my opinion counts for anything, of course) that there should
be no problem whatsoever as regards fulfilling the mitzvah of light in one's
home on Shabbos by use of an LED or other electric light. But at the same time,
I can also see that one might not be able to use the words "l'hadlik" or "ner"
when doing that mitzvah, depending on how one defines those words. </FONT></DIV>
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face=Arial><BR>Akiva Miller</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Can we not translate "lehadlik ner" as "to turn on a light"?</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</STRONG></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff>Romney -- good
values, good family, good
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