<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:33 PM, hankman <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:hankman@bell.net" target="_blank">hankman@bell.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<div><span style="font-family:'Times New Roman';font-size:12pt">CM notes:</span></div>
<div><font face="Times New Roman">However you answer the question you actually
asked –whether “an LED light [is or] is not a ner” I think there is a threshold
question of fact you need to investigate first. Since the purpose of ner Shabbos
is to enhance oneg Shabbos so you do not eat your seudas Shabbos in a dark room,
does this LED usefully illuminate the room and enhance “oneg” or is it like the
LEDs on my modem or other electronic gear that just serve as an indicator for
“on” or “off” but do not usefully illuminate the space they are in.</font></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm not sure how relevant this would be. (Although my assumption is they do give off a fair amount of light, like many LED flashlights today). </div>
<div><br></div><div>In a fully lit room, where one woman has already lit candles, while it is preferable for any other women who want to light to light in a different place in the house, we (I think this is only for Ashkenazim but I don't remember) hold that tosefet ohr is enough of a reason to make a bracha over an additional lighting. Further, if the room was fully dark without the LEDs and they gave off just enough light to avoid tripping over something on the floor, that would also presumably be enough light. Most LEDs, even small ones on electrical devices, would provide this level of light.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Kol Tuv,</div><div>Liron</div></div>
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