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size=2 face=Arial><BR>On Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 12:07:32AM -0400, T613K@aol.com
wrote:<BR>: But what about according to those who hold that they both
converted prior<BR>: to marrying Machlon and Kilyon? Naami treated both
Ruth and Orpah the same<BR>: way, did she not? So if there were problems with
the validity of Orpah's<BR>: giyur, there must have been problems with the
validity of Ruth's.<BR><BR>Not necessarily. Hypothetically speaking, what if
Naami saw Orpah, the<BR>day (or the hour) after tevillah, in front of her idols?
That would<BR>certainly cast doubt on her qabbalas ol mitzvos at the time of
tevilah,<BR>while still upholding Rus's
geirus.<BR><BR>:-)BBii!<BR>-Micha<BR><BR><BR></FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Actually it was not I but R' Akiva Miller who wrote the passage to which
RMB is responding here. I merely quoted RAM's passage before adding my own
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<DIV>And in fact my response was similar to RMB's: I suggested that
Orpah's conversion may have been invalid while Ruth's was valid, perhaps because
there was no genuine kabalas ohl mitzvos and sincere intention to convert on
Orpah's part.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG>--Toby
Katz<BR>=============</STRONG></FONT><BR><FONT color=#0000ff>Romney -- good
values, good family, good
hair<BR><BR><BR>-------------------------------------------------------------------
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