<div dir="ltr"><div>>> 1. 2 witnesses come forward and testify that Reuvain committed a sin that would be chayav mita bydei Shamayim. The beit din concurs and then 2 witnesses show up and are meizim the first 2. Does HKB”H count the 1st 2 witnesses as being chayav mita bydei Shamayim? <<</div>
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<div>See Ritva Makos 2b citing the Ramban - "According to the opinion that holds Kufra (paying kofer for one's Muad ox killing someone is a) kapparah, you can't have hazamah, since their primary testimony is to render him liable for Misah Beyedei Shamanyim, as it states 'And also its owner shall be put to death', and their testimony, in respect to Heaven, changes nothing, since if his ox killed someone then without their testimony he will be liable in Heaven, and if not, then their testimony is not going to make him liable in Heaven, since Heaven has no need for their testimony."</div>
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<div>>> 2. 2 witnesses testify that reuvain killed shimon but there was no hatraah. The beit din decides reuvain will go into the kippah and be killed by the food/water treatment. 2 witnesses come and are meizim the 1st witnesses. Do the1st set get sent to the kippah? <<</div>
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<div>Why not? Whether you hold Kipah is a Halachah Lemoshe Misinai (Ran) or Derabanan (Yad Remah) it is still a death penalty that Beis Din imposes. The Chazon Ish has a Safek whether EZ who testified that one who is *already* sentenced to kipah deserves the death penalty for something else, and are found to be zomeim, whether they get killed, but the general rules of Dinei Nefashos apply.</div>
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<div>>> 3. Same as 2 but the community also has a rule that in such a case reuvain must pay $1000 and cannot be honored at the shul dinner. Do those restrictions now apply to the 1st witnesses? <<</div>
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<div>This probably gets into the Ramban's first answer of why eidei ben Gerushah do not pay for the Matnos Kehunah that they wanted to make him lose. There are different explanations of what the Ramban means in his first answer, ayyen sham. <br>
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