<div dir="ltr"><div>from an old post</div><<
<span style>"I was hoping people would understand that I was bothered by the very fact</span><br style><span style>that RYBS would have based his most famous essay on Jewish thought on</span><br style><span style>Christian thinkers without even mentioning the fact. From Brill, it seems</span><br style>
<span style>that the ideas were practically copied right out of books by Brunner and</span><br style><span class="il" style="background-color:rgb(255,255,204);color:rgb(34,34,34);font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px">Barth</span><span style>. Does anyone else have trouble with this?"</span> >><div>
<br></div><div>In addition to R. Carmy's replies I am reading the recent book of Blidstein, based on old essays, on RYBS.</div><div>He has an un depth discussion of the influence of Barth and Buber on the writings of RYBS. In Halakhic Man and Halakic Mind RYBS explicitly discusses Barth and so there is no doubt that he was familar with his writings.</div>
<div><br></div><div>To claim that the ideas were copied from Barth is simply wrong. Blidstein discusses at length similarities and differences in the approaches of Barth and RYBS. It is no secret that RYBS read and was influenced by many nonJewish sources such as
<span style> Kierkegaard. Among some of the differences in approach is that Barth sees Adam II as a continuation of Adam I. According to RYBS Adam II is a distinctly different entity than Adam I. Barth;s version is based on Xtian theology while RYBS's is based on Jewish theology. Furthermore Barth stresses the idea of the corruption of sin which again is Xtian and the consequence rebellion of the Jewish people against G-d. The main point for Barth is the relationship of of Adam and Eve which symbolizes the relationship of G-d to Israel and then the church. OTOH RYBS stresses that the convenant is between three parties man, woman and G-d and symbolizes the intrinsic part that G-d has with regard to man both that the couple is dedicated to G-d and that G-d is involved in their relationship. In that sense RYBS dedicated the work to his wife.</span></div>
<div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif"><br></font></div><div><font color="#222222" face="arial, sans-serif">In summary RYBS as Rabbi Carmy stated RYBS was influenced by many sources but he extracted the essence based on his Jewish knowledge. If one reads the recent interview with RAL he too stresses that one can learn from many different sources as long as one is able to see which parts align with Jewish thinking and which parts are opposed.<br>
</font><div><br></div><div><br clear="all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir="ltr"><font color="#000099" face="'comic sans ms', sans-serif">Eli Turkel</font></div><br>
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