<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>I received the following response from one of the group privately (hence, I'm omitting the name).</div><div>My response follows and this Avodah member's response follows mine. (To me, this seems totally amazing and basically </div><div>flies in the face of everything we've been taught).</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite">I never heard of a timer as such, I have heard of a device that needs to be renewed every 12 hours (as an example). No matter which patient it is, it gets renewed manually... If it isnt renewed the patient is essentially taken off the respirator. It follows from the idea of that they hold there is no obligation to actively save someone, but there is an obligation to not actively kill.<div>Rabbi Tatz was speaking about it a few years ago, I'll see if he has a write up.</div></blockquote></div><div><br></div><div>This is a phenomenal insight to me since I've been teaching for years that once you hook someone up, you cannot disconnect.</div><div>There was never the slightest hint of a renewal every 12 hours.</div><div>It seems to me that would change the entire concept substantially and how is it that nobody I know ever mentioned that option.</div><div>That is a remarkable option (to be able to inform people that the MOST they would have to be connected would be 12 hours)!</div><div>Thanks for the clarification.</div><div>I still feel there are poskim who would disagree.</div><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4950d3">YEah, I am suprised that I only heard about this from Rabbi Tatz. He has a number of lectures on medical ethics. He was a doctor and has spent a long time discussing and working in this area. </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#4950d3">I believe he came up with the 12 hour machine....</font> <div><br></div><div>Here is a link to many of his lectures:</div><div><a href="http://www.simpletoremember.com/authors/a/rabbi-akiva-tatz/">http://www.simpletoremember.com/authors/a/rabbi-akiva-tatz/</a></div><div>Here is a link to the lecture that I think is the right one:</div><div><a href="http://www.simpletoremember.com/media/a/one-ventilator/">http://www.simpletoremember.com/media/a/one-ventilator/</a></div></div></body></html>