<div dir="ltr"><font color="#000000"><font><font face="arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Reb Micha,<br><br>I am not qualified to analyze the sources for the purpose of determining whether MBP is, or is not, an integral part of the mitzvah.<br>
<br>It may be that this group has discussed this in the past. If so, I will examine the archives when I can.<br><br>If not, I suggest that this might be a worthwhile discussion.<br><br>DK<br><br></font></font></font><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 9, 2012 at 16:31, Micha Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 12:39:57PM -0400, Beth & David Cohen wrote:<br>
: IOW, assuming metzitza is a l'chatchila<br>
<div class="im">: requirement, but b'deeved the bris milah is kosher, does pikuach nefesh<br>
: override the requirement?<br>
<br>
</div>Let's also disambiguate the two meanings of bedi'eved -- there is the<br>
post-facto question of whether there was a chalos and the separate<br>
question of whether one was yotzei. The former: you shouldn't do X, but<br>
if you did, there is still a change of halachic state. The latter: the<br>
proper way to do the mitzvah is to do X, but if you erred, and omitted<br>
that step, you're still yotzei.<br>
<br>
RZS said the baby is not left an areil. That doesn't mean that one still<br>
fulfilled the mitzvah of milah. We are still talking of asking those who<br>
hold metzitzah is part of milah to altogether do away with one of the most<br>
cenral of mitzvos.<br>
<br>
:-)||ii!<br>
<span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-Micha<br>
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