<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:garamond, new york, times, serif;font-size:14pt"><div><span>the questions in my mind are:</span></div><div><span>1. does it matter?? </span></div><div><span>(eg, once established by Ezra Hasofer) it probably will not</span></div><div><span>change, unless we find the originall sefer torah, and find</span></div>some letter (passage) discrepancies [kidushim lamed hard-<br>to explain passages]<br><div><span>2. how do we know the "5" were lost??</span></div><div><span>is there a chazal that says so??</span></div><div><span>3. we are a people of the book, we have lost a lot, <br></span></div><div><span>including the tagim, the sounds, etc, but how could we <br></span></div><div><span>have lost entire letters?????</span></div><div><span>the soferim, and scholars, are, and were very medakdek</span></div><div><span>hb</span><br></div><div>hmz</div><div><br></div><div style="color:rgb(0,
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sans-serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal;"><br></div><div><br></div> <div style="font-family: garamond, new york, times, serif; font-size: 14pt;"> <div style="font-family: times new roman, new york, times, serif; font-size: 12pt;"> <font face="Arial" size="2"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Joel C. Salomon <joelcsalomon@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Avodah Torah Discussion Group <avodah@lists.aishdas.org> <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> Harvey Benton <harvw613@yahoo.com>; Zev Sero <zev.sero@gmail.com> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Monday, December 26, 2011 7:22 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [Avodah] timeline??<br> </font> <br>
On 12/26/2011 06:42 PM, Harvey Benton wrote:<br>> my question is, what was there to learn from the<br>> tagim, when the original text (most believe) was<br>> not the modern hebrew that we use ??<br><br>I recall reading a theory (I thought it was on A/A, but searching<br><a target="_blank" href="http://aishdas.org">aishdas.org</a> does not turn it up) that the *original* original script,<br>the one the Avos would have used, would be the Aramaic one (see<br><<a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aramaic_alphabet</a>>) -- Avraham was from<br>Aram, after all --; and that the Phoenician "ktav ivri" was adopted<br>after the conquest of Eretz Yisrael.<br><br>That would explain where the 5 final letter forms come from, and how<br>they were "lost, and Ezra reestablished them".<br><br>(Trouble is, the theory [as I remember it] has some holes, e.g.,<br>archeological evidence of Phoenician
turning into Aramaic. If anyone<br>else remembers seeing this, and where, maybe the fellow who wrote this<br>originally has some answers.)<br><br>--Chesky<br><br><br> </div> </div> </div></body></html>