"<font size="3">Did you see anything in what I wrote about being non-kosher?
(However, you seem to have forgotten the Rabbi Simon of the LBD said they
do not approve Brussels sprouts without supervision.)<br>The suggestion that certain products were not kosher was not aimed at you in particular but a generalization. However I was talking about all products and not specifically Brussel sprouts.<br>
As for R.Simon, I am awaiting his confirmation of that fact. His comments contradict those written in the booklet.At least in the edition that I have.There is a new one just recently released. the language may have been changed in that issue.<br>
Martin Brody</font>.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Prof. Levine <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:llevine@stevens.edu">llevine@stevens.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;">
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<font size="3">At 01:27 PM 11/28/2011, martin brody wrote:<br>
<blockquote type="cite">"See the above URL for the
rest of these articles.<br>
From this articles it should be clear why there<br>
are differences between kashrus in the US and<br>
Israel and the rest of the world and why one<br>
should not extrapolate from the standards of one<br>
organization in a given country to the situation in other countries.<br>
YL"<br><br>
Sorry, but I completely disagree with you.<br>
A jar of Polish jam that is kosher in Sainsbury's, Golders Green, is just
as kosher in Trader Joes in Westwood, California.<br>
That there are kashrut agences that have standards that are meta
halachic,(none of the majors permit batel, for example) and differ
amongst themselves in many cases, is irrelevant to the kashrut of a
product, including that lovely vegetable, Brussel sprouts that started
this whole thing off. Don't want to rely on those guidlines? Then don't,
but please do not suggest that the products are not kosher.<br>
Kind regards,</blockquote><br>
Did you see anything in what I wrote about being non-kosher?
(However, you seem to have forgotten the Rabbi Simon of the LBD said they
do not approve Brussels sprouts without supervision.)<br><br>
Again from the Halachic Policy Guidelines of the Kashrus Authority of
Australia
<a href="http://bit.ly/t04ow7" target="_blank">http://bit.ly/t04ow7</a>
<br><br>
Similarly there are two distinct paradigms in relation to supervision of
kosher foods. The <u>certification</u> paradigm, when a company comes to
you and pays you for your services as well as markets also specifically
to Jews; and the <u>approval</u> paradigm, where you initiate the visit
to the company, you are not paid by the company and the company are not
particularly interested in the Kosher market. <br><br>
and<br><br>
3. We have a third level (that does not exist in the USA). These are what
we have called “approved” products manufactured by persons not of the
Jewish faith. I have written a detailed article explaining the halachic
rationale and resultant differences as well as our current policies in
that regard and you may find it on our website
<a href="http://www.ka.org.au/" target="_blank">www.ka.org.au</a> in the
halachic policies section. It is in relation to this “level” that we
indeed follow the London Beth Din, The Manchester Beth Din, The
Johannesburg Beth Din, and all who currently list “approved” products.
<br><br>
Note the following from the same URL <br><br>
Kosher Australia based in Victoria has announced that it is moving to
only use the certification paradigm, and as such in their most recent
update they have removed products such as Sanitarium So Good. That policy
change is of course their choice, and we emphasise that it should be
fully respected by those under their jurisdiction. However, the rabbis of
The Kashrut Authority (comprising the rabbis of The Sydney Beth Din and
the Yeshiva Rabbinate with over forty years’ experience in Kashrut in
NSW) are of the view that it is *still necessary for us to retain the
approvals paradigm*. <br><br>
From this I get the impression that if they could move away from the
approvals paradigm they would. YL<br><br>
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</blockquote></div><br><br clear="all"><br>-- <br>Martin Brody<br>310 474 1856<br>