<html><div>RDYL quotes an article which states: </div><div> </div><div><span style="font-size: small;">></span><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: small;">Ashkenazic tradition is to wear a Talis (gadol) in Shul even at times when such is not generally worn by the congregation at large, for example at a weekday mincha davening, when one is carrying out certain tasks, e.g. acting as the , or , leading the prayers and representing the congregation. The same goes for when leading the evening tefilloh commonly referred to as �maariv�, when getting an aliyah or leining at of , and other occasions.</span><br><br><span style="font-size: small;">This practice is faithfully followed to the present day in (German) Ashkenazic congregations, as well as elsewhere, such as Lithuanian type Yeshivos, and such �Yeshivishe minyonim�.</span><br><br><span style="font-size: small;">In other places, e.g. many Eastern European Ashkenazic Shuls, there has been an erosion in this aspect of the Ashkenazic tradition, due to, it seems, Chassidic influence, as well as perhaps modern trends toward informality. In such places, one can see people going to the amud to lead the services at maariv, and sometimes even at mincha, without a tallis gadol. And also leining and going up for aliyos at mincha of Shabbos similarly<</span></span></div><div><span style="font-size: small;"><span style="font-size: small;"> </span></span></div><div> When in Israel, I daven at the Gra Shul in Sha'arei Chesed. It is far from a hotbed "modern trends towards informality." It is also far from "East European Ashkenazic." Yet a tallis is not donned specifically for serving as shaliach tzibbur or bal koyre, at any t'filla. A jacket is de rigeur; a tallis is not.</div><div> </div><div> In European yeshivas, it was not necessarily a tallis that was donned. Wearing a coat worn in the manner of a tallis -- i.e., with the sleeves hanging down, rather than having the hands inserted in them -- was acceptable. If one consults the sources at the end of the article cited, it will be noted that with the exception of the Aruch Hashulchan, they say "l'hisateif." They do not specify that it be "l'hisateif b'tallis." It would appear to be a matter of donning an extra garment lichvod hat'filla, rather than an obligation to wear a tallis. (None of the sources cited mention a need for a tallis for k'rias haTorah.) If so, then in a society in which jackets are not the norm, donning a jacket for davening would satisfy this requirement.</div><div> </div><div>EMT</div><div> </div><div> </div></html>
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