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<DIV>In a message dated 10/3/2011, harchinam@gmail.com writes:</DIV>
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<DIV>>> Saying that Hashem is the sanegor [or even The Sanegor] against
or across from the Kategor is just too much like a different religion's ideas
of two equal powers [or even somehwat unequal powers on the same level] for my
taste.<<</FONT></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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<DIV>I had no such intention or thought of "two powers" in my mind
c'v and I am glad that you clarified that. </DIV>
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<DIV>Sefer Iyov (among other sources) makes it clear that the Satan cannot act
on his own initiative, that he is just another malach with a mission to
perform -- he is the yetzer hara, he is the prosecutor and he is the malach
hamaves -- it is his mission to attempt to get people to sin and then to punish
them if they do -- but underneath it all, he doesn't /reallly/
want people to sin, he wants them to resist his wiles and to do
Hashem's will. The Torah's picture of the Satan is quite, quite
different from the xian idea of an angel who "rebelled" and set himself up in
his own anti-G-d kingdom!</DIV>
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<DIV>It may be that the sanegor (or The Sanegor) is not Hashem Himself but an
angel appointed by Hashem to speak for the defense, but that does sound
more like an attorney than a witness. Or every person may have his own
sanegor (or even many) -- the angel[s] created by his own good deeds that
testify on his behalf. In any case, I think we are in the land of
metaphors here and don't have a crystal clear idea of what goes on Up There
-- other than the knowledge that we are on trial and that our fate hangs in the
balance.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR><STRONG>--Toby Katz<BR>================</STRONG></FONT><FONT lang=0 color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR><BR><BR><BR><BR>_____________________</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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