<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">From: Richard Wolberg <<a href="mailto:cantorwolberg@cox.net">cantorwolberg@cox.net</a>><br><blockquote type="cite">The analogy I like to give is that if you had an unedited video of someone's<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">whole life, would that affect the choices that person made? Of course, not.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">The only difference here is that God already has the video of your life, but<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">since God is not bound by time, He knows the choices you will make. From<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">our point of understanding, we see the choices someone made after the fact.<br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite">God sees it before. The <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Harvey Benton wrote:</div>i think a simpler solution might be in order....<br><br>i you happen to know that one of your children (or many of your children)<br>prefer chocolate ice cream over say vanilla and you presented the given<br>child (or children) a choice of flavors.......<br><br>you KNOW (based on past experience, etc) that he/she/they, will choose<br>the flavor that they prefer, and in this case it is chocolate......<br><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">Unfortunately, there is not a "simpler" solution. This is quite complex theology.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">The analogy given regarding a child preferring chocolate over vanilla is flawed.</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">In a sense, it is like saying if you know someone is a kleptomaniac and watch </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">him on camera in a store, you know he will steal. That is no more free choice than</font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">a child picking chocolate ice cream. A sound and correct analogy presumes that </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">the person has an objective free choice. If you use the analogy above, then you </font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#243afc">do the opposite to illustrate free will. You weaken your whole argument.</font></div></body></html>