<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt"><div>heard today from someone (he couldn't recall the source)</div><div>that the reason we say "mishane makom, etc) even though</div><div>there is a concept of "ayn mazal b'yisrael, is that as a whole, <br></div><div>the whole jewish nation is "above" mazal, while we, as in-</div><div>dividuals, are still subject to mazalot (and their influences).......</div><div>and therefore, mishane makom, mishane mazal, etc, <br></div><div>is still applicable and true (and people also change their</div><div>names, etc,) <br></div><div>is this true??<br></div></div></body></html>