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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>RAR wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>I do think that a similar size tear would be much more dangerous in<BR>the
oesophagus. Infection would be much less of an issue with a nick<BR>in the
trachea which is much 'cleaner' than the oesophagus.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>I hear what you are saying. the risk of infection is
higher in the </FONT><FONT face="Times New Roman">oesophagus and the risk of
enlarging the tear is also greater in the oesophagus due to the peristalsis of
the oesophagus. But you avoided responding to how serious you think a "fine
needle" hole (from an injection) in the oesophagus would be (I suspect medically
not too serious) - yet halacha would call that a treifa.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>RAR wrote:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>Another thing to consider is that with the oesophagus being
placed<BR>behind the trachea any injury to the oesophagus is likely to
be<BR>accompanied by injury to other structures, in particular blood<BR>vessels.
The trachea is much more superficial and it is easier to<BR>imagine an injury to
the trachea which does little damage to other<BR>structures.<BR></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>CM responds:</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Your response is of course very logical if the injury is
caused by some external trauma. However in the context of hilchos treifa it is
probably irrelevant as no other damage is required, just the nick in
the <FONT face="Times New Roman">oesophagus</FONT> is sufficient to render
the animala treifa. Furthermore the common case of the hole in the </FONT><FONT
face="Times New Roman">oesophagus more often than not, comes from internal
injury such as swallowing a thorn, needle, nail or the like which makes the hole
in the oesophagus without any damage to the nearby organs or
tissues.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Calibri>Kol Tuv</FONT></DIV>
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