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<<(1) I propose that <<< soup (especially clear soup)
>>> is a "liptan" - the prime example of a food which is
eaten together with bread so very frequently that the bread will
exempt it even when eaten separately from the bread. Consider:
croutons, mandlen, matza farfel, bits of challah. All these items
are routinely eaten with soup; boxes are even labeled by the
manufacturer as "soup croutons" and "soup mandlen". It may be
noteworthy that while these items can be added to any soup, they are
most often added to <b class="moz-txt-star"><span
class="moz-txt-tag">*</span>clear<span class="moz-txt-tag">*</span></b>
soups!>><br>
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On the contrary, I would have thought that these would be tafel to
the soup (see siman 212) were it not for the special rule that when
something is made of the 5 minim mixed with other things, the dagan
is always considered ikkar (see the first Biur Halacha in the
siman). No one, if you cut him a slice of bread, asks for soup to
go with it, but, if you give someone some soup, he might ask for
bread to go with it. Liftan is something you use to accompany
bread, not something you use bread to accompany.<br>
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<<Perhaps Hamotzi covers soup because soup is an
appetizer?>><br>
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But why is soup different from fruit? Over Shabbos I looked at
Hayyei Adam Klal 43, and I was intrigued to find that EVERY example
he gave of something that's not part of the meal is fruit. The
impression I came away with is that he, like you, really wanted to
say that everything you eat during a meal is part of a meal, but he
was stuck because of precedent, so rather than redefining his
concept of a meal he simply decided that fruit is a unique case.<br>
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David Riceman<br>
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