<html><div><a href="mailto:avodah@lists.aishdas.org">avodah@lists.aishdas.org</a><br> R. Micha Berger wrote:</div><div> </div><div> <I mean "Mordochai", with a chataf-qamatz under the dalet, transliterated<br>with an "o" because the chataf-qamatz appears to be related more to the<br>qamatz qatan.></div><div> </div><div> I claim no expertise in dikduk, but it is my understanding that there is no such thing as a chataf other than under a guttural; that the chataf-kamatz in words such as "hal'lu," "bar'chu," ush'ka," et al., are actually no more than an indication of a sh'va na, written that way since those who did so pronounced every sh'va na as though it was a chataf (see Bach, siman 582); and that the chataf kamatz under non-gutturals is the sign of a kamatz katan in a setting other than its normal one of a closed, unaccented syllable, as in e.g. "tzipporim" or the Aramaic "kodam" (as in kaddish shaleim), where the syllable is an open one. </div><div> </div><div> If this is correct, then those who have a chataf-kamatz under the dalet in Mord'chai should read it as a full kamatz katan, not as a chataf kamatz.</div><div> </div><div>EMT<br> </div></html>
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