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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>From: menucha <A href="mailto:menu@inter.net.il">menu@inter.net.il</A><BR></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>Rn TK is cholek on the meshane Halachot, but my original question
(and <BR>the reason this post was bounced by the moderators from areivim to
<BR>avodah) is whether this is found anywhere in psak. <BR>sadly, this
strengthens my hypothesis that the long skirt bashing is not <BR>daas
Torah..... menucha<BR><BR><BR>T613K@aol.com wrote:<BR><BR>>
<BR>> From: menucha <menu@inter.net.il><BR>><BR>> <BR>>
>> Is the restriction against long skirts found anywhere in psak? I
seem<BR>> to be finding the opposite.<BR>><BR>><BR>>
menucha<BR>><BR>> <BR>> >>>>><BR>>
<BR>> If the choice is mini-skirts or floor-length then yes, halavai they
<BR>> should all wear long skirts. But.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV>You seem to be defining "daas Torah" as "something that has a
written source." If nobody can point you to a written source you say "it's
not daas Torah then."</DIV>
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<DIV>I think daas Torah would be defined by most people as pretty nearly the
opposite: something that doesn't have a written source or that, whether or
not there are written sources, is held by [most of] the rabbanim and poskim of
the day to be normative and/or preferred behavior for Torah Jews. I
speak of Torah Jews as people who want to live, not only a minimal
letter-of-the-law existence, but an optimum Torah-true life. </DIV>
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<DIV>I must hasten to add that I have by no means exhausted all the possible
meanings and permutations of "daas Torah" and I don't plan to write that
5,000-page book any time soon. I only mean to disagree with this one
narrow point, namely, that if a Rav says something for which there are no
explicit written sources, then what he said is not daas Torah. On the
contrary, if he is a Rav, then what he says is ipso facto daas Torah.</DIV>
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<DIV>OK OK just stumbled into a minefield, "What is a Rav?" Not going to
write /that/ 5,000-page book any time soon, either.</DIV>
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<DIV>Just this: the set of "daas Torah" and the set of "written
sources" are not identical sets.</DIV>
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