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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>From: menucha <menu@inter.net.il><BR>T</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>>> Is the restriction against long skirts found anywhere in
psak? I seem<BR>to be finding the opposite.<BR><BR>Meshane Halachot 12,316. In
response to a specific question about<BR>wearing long skirts which are in "moda"
the answer is "halevai veyelchu<BR>kulam besmalot arucot"<BR><BR>Also, shu"t
Shevet Halevi 5,75,2 is quite clear in his opinion that<BR>shok is till the
ankle - even exempting them from wearing garbayim!!!!<BR>So where does this
"rechovi" bit come in?<BR><BR>menucha<BR><BR>rechovi = something you see worn on
the streets, in other words what's<BR>"in" in the non-frum/non-Jewish world but
not acceptable in chareidi<BR>society, even if it is not tehnically un-tznius,
such as when long,<BR>long skirts sweeping the streets were "in".<BR><BR>***
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<DIV>If the choice is mini-skirts or floor-length then yes, halavai they should
all wear long skirts. But.</DIV>
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<DIV>When nobody wears skirts to the floor, that style is too eye-catching to be
modest. It may be that in Israel it has become so common
among the DL in recent years that it is no longer attention-getting, but
that is certainly not the case in the US. And obviously that
style is still considered too eye-catching to be modest in charedi
neighborhoods in Israel. I would add that the women whom my mother
calls the "Shmatta Ladies" -- the ones who ostentatiously shroud themselves in
black from head to foot -- are immodest in the most profound sense of the
word. Tznius means when you walk down the street you look normal and
nobody gives you a second glance.</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT lang=0 color=#0000ff size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"><BR><B>--Toby Katz<BR>==========<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"></B>--------------------</FONT></DIV></DIV>
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