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<DIV><FONT style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial>From: Zev Sero <A href="mailto:zev@sero.name">zev@sero.name</A><BR><BR>On 29/09/2010 1:11 PM,
Micha Berger wrote:<BR>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 03:10:58AM +1000, Zev Sero
wrote:<BR>>> When it's raining, it's possible not only to force yourself
to eat in<BR>>> the sukkah anyway, but also to force yourself to *like*
doing so, and<BR>>> to be *happy* while doing so...[--RZS]<BR>><BR>>
How do you force yourself to like something and to be happy doing<BR>> it?
[-RMB]<BR><BR>>> It depends, of course, on how unpleasant it is in the
first place; also<BR>on how long one must go on liking it. But one can
often psych oneself<BR>into enjoying otherwise unpleasant experiences for a
short while; alcohol<BR>helps, as do being with a group who are all doing it
together, and an<BR>inspiring speaker or leader. .... <<<BR>--
<BR>Zev
Sero
<BR>zev@sero.name <BR>
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<DIV>This is far-fetched. Liquoring up is all very well, but I don't
believe all Lubs psych themselves into believing that they are having a
wonderful time in the sukkah when they're sitting there soaking in the rain,
their clothing, hats, tables and food drowned in water. I just can't
believe that "everyone psyches themselves into thinking they're enjoying
themselves" is an adequate explanation -- that it gives them a hetter, let
alone a chiyuv, to eat in the sukkah when it's pouring rain. Well I guess
you don't need a hetter to sit in the rain, but surely you need a hetter to make
a bracha "Leshev basukkah" under such circumstances?</DIV>
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<DIV>The rest of Klal Yisrael considers it a "potsh in panim" if it rains the
first night of Sukkos -- a sign that Hashem seems to have rejected our efforts
at fulfilling the mitzva of Sukkah. We wait even until midnight to see if
the rain will stop so that we can sit in the sukka and make the bracha.
Are you telling us that Lubs don't wait and don't get upset and don't even think
rain the first night is a negative sign at all -- because they enjoy a rainy
night just as well as a dry one?</DIV>
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<DIV>You didn't explain why they don't sleep in the sukkah, either. "You
can't psych yourself to fall asleep when you're all wet" -- OK fine I get
that. But how about when the weather is nice? To my
knowledge, Lubs never sleep in the sukkah. I'm just curious why. (My
husband never sleeps in the sukkah either but that's because he genuinely can't
fall asleep anywhere but in his own comfy bed. But he would never make
that the basis of a general rule that nobody else should sleep in a sukkah
either!)</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=#0000ff><BR></FONT><B><FONT color=#0000ff>--Toby
Katz<BR>==========<BR><BR></FONT><FONT lang=0 color=#000000 size=2 face=Arial FAMILY="SANSSERIF" PTSIZE="10"></B>--------------------</FONT></DIV>
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