<div dir="ltr"><div>From: Simon Wanderer <><br>Anyone have any thoughts / sources on G'mar Tov Vs G'mar Chasima Tova ?</div>
<div> I would have expected this to be well-trodden ground on the internet, but a quick google search did not turn anything up.</div>
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<div>I am almost positive that (just like every other topic under the sun) we have discussed this here or on Areivim previously (and maybe even more than once).</div>
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<div>Being a bit of a 'wanderer' myself right now, I don't have quick access to my usual seforim, but IIRC, the Munkatcher Rav zt'l is strongly against "Gmar Tov", </div>
<div>Again, IIRC,the reason being because it sounds like you are wishing a 'good finish' (which could indicate- to that person's life), and the last thing we want to wish or talk about is the end of someone's life.</div>
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<div>If anyone has the Darkei Chaim veSholom, he should find it there - I think.</div>
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<div>2) Shouting "Leshono Habo beYerushalayim" after Neilah - when in Yerushalyim - is obviousld not an issue for your standard Charedi 'non-zionist',' 'non-reshit tzemichat geulatenu' types.</div>
<div>But I was (quite seriously) wondering what the RZ's here in Jm were thinking as they said it.</div>
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<div>And if the answer is that for them it refers to the rebuilding of the BHMK, shouldn't the wording of this age-old bakasha be altered? In fact it should have been done so at the time of the invention of "RTzG" and "Aschalta deGeula" terms.</div>
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<div>And if it wasn't done then, maybe someone should put in a request to the Sanhedin )presumably they are still around - despite having been very quite recently) or that (ex-Australian-rabbi led) Shiloh thing - who don't have any fears of changing tradition etc? (Come to think of it, they too have been out of action for quite a while.)</div>
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<div>And to those who haven't yet heard or read the explanation of the SR zt'l on why we say' Leshana HABO' and not "Beshana Zu" - ayen the Artscroll YK Machzor, vetimtza nachas.</div>
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<div>Wishing all a continuing Gemar Chasima Tova and a Git YT</div>
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<div>SBA</div></div>