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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>The discussion back and forth on this issue has my head
spinning. So I would find it very helpful (and perhaps others as well), if we
could go back a step or two and someone could present the elements of serrarah;
that is, to have serrarah there must be a, b c, & d. Of course, if there
is a dispute on the elements, it would be helpful if that were pointed out as
well. With those elements, it might be easier to apply them to particular
cases (shul president, school principal, rabbi, shochet etc.) and see which have
all of the elements and which do not. My sense (and it’s not much more
than a sense) is that some part of our discussion of this issue involves differing
understandings of the powers of those in certain of the positions (president
etc.) being considered as opposed to halachic disagreements.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial'>Joseph Kaplan <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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