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<p class="Style" style="text-align: justify;"><b><font
face="Times New Roman" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt; font-weight: bold;">Ramban(Teshuva #2) or<span
style="">
</span>Rashba (Teshuva #284): </span></font></b><font size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt;">I do </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">not </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">know </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">why </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">there </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">is any cause</span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">for doubt in </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">the
first </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">place, </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">for of course is this woman </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">permitt</span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">ed </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">to </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">this </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">man </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">[without </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">marriage] </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">since she </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">lives
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">with him,
and </span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">non-marital
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">sex was </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">prohibited
to </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">Is­</span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">rael only </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">by </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">the </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">teaching' </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">of Rabbi </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">Eliezer </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">ben
Yaakov who taught</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7pt; font-family: Arial;">; </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">"One
should <span style="">not live</span></span></font><font face="Arial"
size="1"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;"> </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">with </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">a </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">woman
in this </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">land
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">and </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">with
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">another woman</span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;"> in a</span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 5pt; font-family: Arial;">
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">second land,
</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">lest </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">their </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">offspring unknowingly </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">marry </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">one
another, and brother </span></font><font face="Arial" size="3"><span
style="font-size: 11.5pt; font-family: Arial;">will<span style="">
</span>t</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">hen </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">marry </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">sister" (Babylonian </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">Talmud"
Y</span></font><i><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial; font-style: italic;">oma </span></font></i><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">18b}.
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">However, </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 11pt;">if </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">she </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">comes i</span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">nto </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">his </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">house and </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">lives with </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">him </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">and </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">is </span></font><font size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8.5pt;">known
to him .. , </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt;">she
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">is
permitted to be with him sexually, ., . and we have not </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">found </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">in </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">either </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">Scriptures
or </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">the
Talmud that there is </span></font><font size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8.5pt;">any </span></font><font size="1"><span
style="font-size: 9pt;">difference </span></font><font size="2"><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;">between a king </span></font><font size="2"><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;">or </span></font><font size="2"><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;">a </span></font><font size="2"><span
style="font-size: 9.5pt;">commoner </span></font><font face="Arial"
size="1"><span style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">in </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">this regard</span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">, </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">and we find</span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;"> that the foremost </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">spiritual
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial;">leaders
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">of Israel
lived so </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 5.5pt; font-family: Arial;">•••• </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">And
lest </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">you, </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">claim that
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 8.5pt;">the
Scriptures permitted this but that the rabbis
later prohibited </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">it, pray tell, then</span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">,
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">in </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">what.
</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">place is
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8pt; font-family: Arial;">it
</span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">written
that </span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">such </span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 8.5pt; font-family: Arial;">a decree was ever
pronounced? And </span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">which rabbinic </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">court </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">proclaimed
</span></font><font face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">it? </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">And in </span></font><font
size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">what </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">period of</span></font><font
size="4"><span style="font-size: 14.5pt;"> </span></font><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt;">our
</span></font><font size="1"><span style="font-size: 9pt;">his­</span></font><font
face="Arial" size="1"><span
style="font-size: 7.5pt; font-family: Arial;">tory? </span></font><i><font
size="2"><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-style: italic;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></i></p>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:T613K@aol.com">T613K@aol.com</a> wrote:
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<div>The question arose today at the Shabbos table as to what is the
definition of a pilegesh, and how does it differ from a regular wife?
I said I had heard that a pilegesh is a wife with no kesubah but then
someone asked how could that be -- if a man is not allowed to live with
a woman without a kesubah? Somebody please fill me in here, thank you!</div>
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