Micha,<br>You think those people are rare?! I would disagree, what do you guys think?<br><br>Aaron<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 11:59 AM, Micha Berger <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:micha@aishdas.org">micha@aishdas.org</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 09:56:29AM -0800, Gershon Seif wrote:<br>
: Someone who accepts the authority of chazal, the Geonim and Rishonim, but looks at all esoteric statements of even chazal as allegory, and uses the Mahartz Chajes as his reason for this, is not interested in hearing from the zohar as an expert about anything. This person wants sources from the halachic tradition itself stating that past the times of Nevuah, and Chagai, Zecharia and Malachi, Ruach haKodesh was imbued in chazal. Telling them about the experts of esoteric Torah is almost laughable to them. It is circular reasoning. They agree to be bound to Nevuah. That is the basis of the authority of the the Torah and halacha. But beyond that, they wonder and want proof.<br>
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In practice, such people are rare among O. You would be talking about<br>
someone who doesn't alternate hands three times when washing neigl vasr,<br>
which he doesn't necessarily wash until right before Shacharis. Washing<br>
before haMotzi would be equally vanilla.<br>
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-Micha<br>
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