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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>BTW during the time of Rav Zvi Pesach Frank, there
was an attempt to open a bathhouse using women to wash men, and of course Rav
Frank would not allow this in any form what so ever.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ben</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=ben1456@zahav.net.il href="mailto:ben1456@zahav.net.il">Ben
Waxman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=avodah@lists.aishdas.org
href="mailto:avodah@lists.aishdas.org">avodah@lists.aishdas.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=tal.zwecker@gmail.com
href="mailto:tal.zwecker@gmail.com">Tal Moshe Zwecker</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, January 21, 2010 2:12
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Avodah] Public displays of
affection, was [Areivim]</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>The orginal source is the Mordechai. The Beit
Yosef felt this must be ta'ut sofer. The Drisha rejects this interpretation.
and states that what the Mordechai wrote about is washing the entire body. In
his view, washing the filth off someone's body is not inherently arousing. If
someone has a problem, that is something else. But in general, only the
washing of a man's hands and feet are actions of affection, and therefore
those are the khiddush. But having a non-Jew wash a Jewish man should not
be a problem and that was the minhag.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT size=2 face=Arial>Ben</FONT></DIV>
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