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<p>Since some point to the pizmon of "B'motzaei m'nuchah" as evidence that Ashk'nazim should start saying Elul-week S'lichos on Saturday night after chatzos halayla rather than prior to Shacharis on Sunday morning, I thought I would mention two phrases which those "some" presumably said on the first day of Rosh haShanah (the first phrase is in the yotzros, a/k/a/ the piyutim said as part of the pre-Shma b'rachah of "Yotzeir or", and the second is in the q'rovos, a/k/a/ the piyutim said during chazaras haSHaTZ, of Shacharis; translation taken from JMarmorstein translation of Roedelheim Machzor, (C) Copyright 1965 by VGoldschmidt Publishers, Basle) and invite comment:<br>
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Melech taliso kasheleg m'tzuchtzach/The King whose cloak is like purified snow....<br>
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Do you wear an all-white talis/dress in white? How 'bout your community?<br>
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(I consider this point about as strong as the "B'motzaei m'nuchah" point, i.e. not very :). The next one, I consider to be stronger....)<br>
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(This time, in order to emphasize that precisely "ten" is meant, I'm going to quote and then translate the entire stanza, line by line, with the line in question highlighted.)<br>
Ya'amiru oz malchuyos eser/They revere in ten verses the acknowledgement of divine rule;<br>
T'vuos l'sheim buchan b'eser/They are based on him who was ten times tested (Abraham);<br>
** Chaq zichronos _v'qolos_ eser/the measure of remembrance _and of Shofar tones_ is ten **;<br>
Zeicher m'vareich g'vir (nusach acheir: g'viro) b'eser/in memory of him who with ten blessings made his son master. <br>
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Does your community have exactly ten "Shofar tones" during the Amidah (or at least during the chazarah)?<br>
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Best wishes for a guten Shabbes/Shabbas Shalom and a g'mar tov from<br>
--Michael Poppers via RIM pager</body></html>