<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 17, 2009 at 15:46, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com">rabbirichwolpoe@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
DMS:<br>
> allowing women to say kaddish<br>
> (either by themselves, as permitted by RYBS, or with a man, as<br>
> permitted by RYE Henkin), etc - but it is still a very limited amount.<br>
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I am researching "qaddish" stuff for a series of postings and I'm looking<br>
for sources:<br>
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Where are these 2 opnions found</blockquote><div><br>I gave a dvar torah a few years back on this subject. My main sources were.<br><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Joel B. Wolowelsky – Women, Jewish Law & Modernity – new opportunities in a post feminist age</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Rabbi Reuven Fink – Journal of Halacha The recital of kaddish by women</span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;">
<font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Rabbi Dr. Aryeh A.& Rabbi Dov I. Frimer</span> <span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><i>Tradition</i></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">, 32:2</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><b> (</b></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Winter 1998</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><b>).</b></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> WOMEN'S PRAYER SERVICES - THEORY AND PRACTICE</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Here is info that I copied over for use in my dvar torah.<b><br></b></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;">
<font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Rav Yosef Henkin</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> - </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><i>Ha-Pardes </i></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> Adar 1963 - </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> a girl may say kaddish in front of the women when kaddish is being said in the men’s shul, </span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><i>Teshuvot lbrah,</i></span></font><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> written in 1947 and first
published in 1989</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> He says that
although the latter rabbis have discussed this matter (and frowned upon
a girl’s saying kaddish) he recalls in his youth that a girl said
kaddish in a congregation of saintly and pious men, He stipulates,
however, that the girl must stand behind the </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"><i>mechitzah. </i></span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Unlike
earlier times when only one person recited the kaddish, we now have the
custom that many people say the kaddish, and therefore if a girl says
the kaddish together with the men, there is no reason to object.</span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">1970’s - Yavneh, National
Religious Jewish Students Association, Joel Wolowelsky asked one of
the Yavneh student leaders (Rabbi Ezra Bick,now at Yeshivat Har Etzion)
who was then learning with the Rav to ask the Rav about women saying kaddish.</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;">
<font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">I spoke to the Rav about the question you asked concerning a girl saying Kaddish. He told me that he </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">remembered being in Vilna at the "Gaon's Kloiz"</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"> -- which wasn't one of your modem Orthodox shuls -- </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">and a woman came into the back (there was no ezrat nashim ) and said Kaddish after ma'ariv.</span></font></p>
<p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">I
asked him whether it would make a difference if someone was saying
Kaddish along with her or not, and he replied that he could see no
objections in either case -- it's perfectly all right."</span></font> </p><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Rabbi Gerald J. Blidstein</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">
(then a faculty advisor to Yavneh) I was asked about the question
last year, and looking into it, </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">could find no reason beyond general policy, for forbidding it</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">. I </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">spoke to Rav Aharon Lichtenstein</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">, who </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">had
the same reaction and said he would ask the Rav, which he did when I was on the other
end of the phone</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">. [Rav Lichtenstein] put the question to him, and then was directed to ask me whether the </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">girl was stationed in the ezrat nashim</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">. I, of course, answered in the affirmative, and </span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">the Rav then said that of course she could say Kaddish</span><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">.</span></font><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;">
<font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';"></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;"><font size="2"><span style="font-family: 'Arial';">Saul<br></span></font></p><p style="margin-left: 0pt; margin-right: 0pt;">
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