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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I was glancing at the Kaf Hakhayim before Maariv
and he brought the sources in a very concise manner. There is a source that
indicates that the walls were breached on two different days, but since people
couldn't handle two fast so close together, we fast on the second day (i.e. 17th
of Tammuz) only. However a ba'al nefesh might feel that it would be proper to
fast on both days. However the Yerushalmi indicates that the two breaches were
both on the 17th of Tammuz and therefore there is no need for a ba'al nefesh to
fast both days. And then the Kaf Hakhayim adds that there is a Gemara in Baba
Batra (60:B I think, but don't quote me) that indicates that a ba'al nefesh need
not be makhmir in any situation where most people could not be
makhmir.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ben</FONT></DIV>
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style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=jkaplan@tenzerlunin.com href="mailto:jkaplan@tenzerlunin.com">Joseph
C. Kaplan</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=Avodah@aishdas.org
href="mailto:Avodah@aishdas.org">Avodah@aishdas.org</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A title=ben1456@zahav.net.il
href="mailto:ben1456@zahav.net.il">Ben Waxman</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, July 29, 2009 10:06
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> we live in good times</DIV>
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<DIV>"There are sources saying that the walls of Jerusalem were<BR>destroyed
on separate days, but we fast only one day because the tzibbur<BR>can't handle
fasting too many days. Granted these two days (9th and 17th of<BR>Tammuz) are
close together, but if we were to fast for every tragedy, then<BR>the effect
would be similar."</DIV>
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<DIV>I just heard a shiur this past Shabbat in which it was explained that it
is a machloket Bavli and Yerusalmi as to whether the walls of Jerusalem were
destroyed on the same day of the month for both Temples (17th of
Tammuz) or on different days (9th and 17th).</DIV>
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<DIV>Joseph Kaplan<BR></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>