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<DIV>In the case about Shabbat, the secular guy is driving to the dati guy's
home. You are suggesting that the dati guy go out and perform actual aveirot for
the secular guy. </DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>In the Shabbat case, he would be doing an aveira in
any case, so why not have him do a mitzva? <FONT face="Times New Roman"
size=3>mitzva ha'ba b'aveira makes sense when the person in question is mainly a
mitzva doer, and then comes up against a situation where to do a mitazva might
entail doing an aveira. So don't do the mitzva. But this guy has nothing but
aveirot. So this Shabbat, he drives to a Shabbat meal instead of a movie.
Hopefully next Shabbat he'll walk.</FONT></FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ben</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=liron.kopinsky@gmail.com
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Friday, July 17, 2009 2:35 AM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Avodah] best v.
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<DIV id=yiv1050487405>hb: according to this reasoning, if someone is
going out to eat a cheesburger (not on shabbas) one should instead go
out and purchase treif meat for him, put cheese on it, and then have
him/her make a bracha on it; one could then say........"at least he'll
be making a bracha on the food" <BR>what happened to the entire concept
of "mitzva ha'ba b'aveira"???h<BR></DIV></TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
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