<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 17:01, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:harveybenton@yahoo.com">harveybenton@yahoo.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
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<div>imo...<br>1. the Worst that can happen if someone drives on shabbas is .......being mechalel shabbas!! (mi'doiraisa).<br>2.
The Best that can happen if someone attends a shabbas meal (in the
short-term) is 1. making kiddush (mi'dirabannan), 2. a woman/women
lighting shabbas candles (if they get there early enuf (also
mi'dirabbonan); 3. breaking bread with family/friends and making a
bracha on the bread (midirobonnon) and; 4. benching (mi'dirabbon as to
the exact loshon...)<br><br>Imo, if we examine the best case v. the worst case of having invites over......the conclusion should be clear that it is best to avoid having another jew make an aveira (midoraisa) versus possible benefits of midorobbana mitzvas at best....</div>
</td></tr></tbody></table><br></blockquote></div><br>This is not best vs. worst. You have just enumerated what mitzot & avreirot you see happening on that Friday night. This issue is very rarely seen as a one Shabbat issue. It usually involves many competing issues at the same time; Shalom Bayit, kashrut, other mechalel shabbat behaviour, long term spiritual existance, etc. BTW, I was under the impression that Kiddush, Motzie & Benching were D'Oritah.<br>
<br>Saul <br>